> There's an (increasingly small) group of software developers who don't like "magic" and want to understand where their code is running and what it's doing.

That problem started so long ago and has gotten so bad that I would be hard pressed to believe there is anyone on the planet who could take a modern consumer pc and explain what exactly is going on the machine without relying on any abstractions to understand the actual physical process.

Given that, it’s only a matter of personal preference on where you draw the line for magic. As other commenters have pointed out, your line allowing for Kubernetes is already surprising to a lot of people