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wilg | on: TikTok goes dark in the US
the us has political and legal jurisdiction over those companies which is the entire point
epolanski | parent | next
It also has on bytedance in US.

As does turkey or Germany or whoever when it comes to US socials operating in their countries.

All you need is a court order and all socials will delete whatever content is requested.

ternnoburn | parent | next
Do they? Do they actually? I'm not sure the U.S. has control sufficient to exercise meaningful jurisdiction, even if it exists on paper. Big companies have too much influence in Congress and with politicians to be meaningfully reigned in in practice.
snovv_crash | root | parent | next
So you don't see Zuckerberg doing a roundabout on a bunch of policies with the new administration then?
ternnoburn | root | parent
You think he changed because he was worried about either admin? I think he changed because he sees the outcome of an election as an endorsement of his beliefs by the populace.
snovv_crash | root | parent
He's a billionaire, why would he put on a whole dog and pony show if he just wanted to do stuff? He'd just do it, no go on Joe Rogan as well.

No, this is about kowtowing to the new powers that be.

wilg | root | parent
whether or not that's true it doesn't affect the issue of our jurisdiction over a PRC-controlled app
tkel | root | parent
I think it's a stretch to say "PRC-controlled". I think the government has influence in working with ByteDance's board, not unlike in the US. This is the propaganda that has infected the American psyche. To think every single organization in China is an arm of the big bad communists. It's quite uninformed and ahistorical and political propaganda.
roca | root | parent
It's not a stretch. For example a large fraction of Chinese private companies have CCP committees embedded in them: https://www.seafarerfunds.com/prevailing-winds/party-committ... Nothing equivalent in the USA.

China's rule of law is generally very weak. "Ultimately, no matter what the laws say, it would be difficult for any Chinese citizen or company to meaningfully resist a direct request from security forces or law enforcement, and the courts cannot be relied on to provide a remedy." https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/what-the-national-intel...

This is particularly obvious with the number of senior executives of key Chinese companies who have simply disappeared, at least temporarily, when they displeased the government. Again, nothing comparable in the USA (yet).

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