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Divers recover Phoenician shipwreck that sank 2.6k years ago off coast of Spain

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/divers-recover-ancient-shipwreck-that-sank-2600-years-ago-off-the-coast-of-spain-180985778/
This is only tangentially related, but if you like history and ship wrecks and live near Kansas City, go to the Steamboat Arabia museum.

They're digging up a steamboat that sunk, and they found after the river changed its course. It's super cool. When we went the last time we were driving across the states, one of the guys actually doing the excavating was there. He gave our kids a guided tour and talked about all the exhibits with them. It was super cool.

Loved the one in Kansas City! There are some great, thematically-similar museums in other countries as well, if you ever find yourself there:

- the Vasa in Stockholm, Sweden is a ship dredged from the harbor and stabilized, sank in 1628

- the Mary Rose in Portsmouth, England is a Tudor ship that sank in 1545 that was raised and stabilized

In both cases a ton of work was done to stabilize and preserve the remains of the ships that is, imo, almost more interesting than the ship itself.

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Cool indeed but 1856CE is not quite as incredible as 300BCE.
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Go and see it while you can! Its lease ends in 2026 I think its future is uncertain.
Agreed, it is a very cool museum. Go early on a weekend morning in the spring and hit the market while it’s bustling, love that part of the city.
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FYI 2600 and 2.6k use the same number of characters.
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"The wreck will be conserved, protected and eventually reassembled".

I wonder if Phoenicians labelled the parts of ships like their fellow Carthaginians (Chanani)? Or is this a Carthaginian ship but it's referred to as Phoenician?

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> They spent 560 hours diving at the wreck site to make detailed diagrams of its many cracks and fissures.

I feel a bit jealous of them, me being in tech, doing hard work like this to preserve the history of humanity.

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Phoenicia will rise again
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Preserved ancient shipwrecks are why I don't believe when people say some material "degrades in X years".
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How did people come up with alphabet? Phoenicians were one of the first to invent this technology, but I assume language existed way before that? How did that happen? Like, how did people agree on saying certain things to mean specific things? Starting from the mind of the first humans who didn't have language, how did we get to where we had language and it was so ubiquitous that even ancient civilizations like Phoenicians put it in writing?
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