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Yes, you do everything except measure merit.

Equal outcomes for everybody.

This is how you get 100lb women in the fire department who can't even control a fire hose at full pressure.

> This is how you get 100lb women in the fire department who can't even control a fire hose at full pressure.

\1 Is this a real problem in actual fire deployments or simply a made up bit of Fox News DEI outrage?

\2 Here in the Western Australian rural bush fire service 100lb women and people in wheelchairs are valuable members that operate GIS terminals, coordinate aircraft, work as administrators and bookkeepers, etc.

It is a thing that happens and it also includes small women (and sometimes men) who aren't able to carry the weight they should be able to.

It is verifiable fact that the LAFD has lowered the strength requirements considerable in order to allow for smaller people. And with the current fires, there is a plenty of footage of small people not being able to do the heavy physical stuff.

And certainly women (and small men) can do many other useful things, but they people that operate GIS terminals would not be "firefighters" in the categorical sense even if they are valuable parts of the fire fighting team.

This is the actual test to get into firefighter training in California.[1] This is just to get into training. Graduating is tougher.

Eight test events in 10 minutes 20 seconds. All events must be passed. No breaks. Candidates wear 50 pounds of weight through the whole test. Plus an additional 25 pounds for the stair climb. The events are all firefighting-related.

Here's a woman firefighter passing this test.[2] With two minutes to spare.

LA City Fire is about 3% female.[3]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh3EoE1yJnQ

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0sUjZ8Abuc

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiUAWBuIWDE

Those tests are a joke. They've lowered the standards to capture the minimum physical requirements to do the most basic of firefighting tasks.

And 10 minutes, how about they test them for 8 hours of that kind of work?

Who is going to last a whole shift or 36 straight hours of fighting Palisades fires?

Nothing in what I described called for "do everything except measure merit". And I specifically disclaimed attempting equal outcomes.

I'm a firefighter in NM. Your comments about firefighters are pathetic and ignorant.