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Ending our third party fact-checking program and moving to Community Notes model

https://about.fb.com/news/2025/01/meta-more-speech-fewer-mistakes/
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What I think I just read is that content moderation is complicated, error-prone, and expensive. So Meta is going to do a lot less of it. They'll let you self-moderate via a new community notes system, similar to what X does. I think this is a big win for Meta, because it means people who care about the content being right will have to engage more with the Meta products to ensure their worldview is correctly represented.

They also said that their existing moderation efforts were due to societal and political pressures. They aren't explicit about it, but it's clear that pressure does not exist anymore. This is another big win for Meta, because minimizing their investment in content moderation and simplifying their product will reduce operating expenses.

  > it means people who care about the content being right will have to engage more with the Meta products to ensure their worldview is correctly represented.
To me it sounds better for large actors who pay shills to influence public opinion, like Qatar. I disagree that this is better for either Facebook users, or society as a whole.

It does however certainly fit the Golden rule - he with the gold makes the rules.

I was under the impression that Community Notes were designed to be resistant to sybil attacks, but I could be wrong. Community Notes have been used at Twitter for a long time. Are there examples of state-influenced notes getting through the process?
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> it means people who care about the content being right will have to engage more with the Meta products to ensure their worldview is correctly represented.

Or maybe such people have far better things to do than fact check concern trolls and paid propagandists.

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What I heard is that trying to maintain sane content is less profitable than the alternative, and definitely less politically advantageous.
> I think this is a big win for Meta, because it means people who care about the content being right will have to engage more with the Meta products to ensure their worldview is correctly represented.

Strong disagree. This is a very naive understanding of the situation. "Fact-checking" by users is just more of the kind of shouting back and forth that these social networks are already full of. That's why a third-party fact checks are important.

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> They aren't explicit about it, but it's clear that pressure does not exist anymore

It's clear that the pressure comes now from the other side of the spectrum. Zuck already put Trumpists at various key positions.

> I think this is a big win for Meta, because it means people who care about the content being right will have to engage more with the Meta products to ensure their worldview is correctly represented.

It's a good point. They're also going to push more political contents, which should increase engagement (eventually frustrating users and advertisers?)

Either way, it's pretty clear that the company works with the power in place, which is extremely concerning (whether you're left or right leaning, and even more if you're not American).

Is it less concerning if Facebook only worked with one side of politics? How is reducing censorship a bad thing?
Who said anything about that?
> They also said that their existing moderation efforts were due to societal and political pressures. They aren't explicit about it, but it's clear that pressure does not exist anymore.

I didn't think it was any secret that Meta largely complies with US gov't instructions on what to suppress. It's called jawboning[1]

[1] https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/what-jawboning-and-do...

The pressure has just shifted from being applied by the left to the right. There is still censorship on Twitter, it is just the people Elon doesn't like who are getting censored. The same will happen on Facebook. Zuckerberg has been cozying up to Trump for a reason.
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You're right, censorship is same as lack of censorship.
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> reduce operating expenses

If you assume they are immune to politics (not true but let's go with it), this is the most obvious reason.

They've seen X hasn't taken that much heat for Community Notes and they're like "wow we can cut a line item".

The real problem is, Facebook is not X. 90% of the content on Facebook is not public.

You can't Fact Check or Community Note the private groups sharing blatantly false content, until it spills out via a re-share.

So Facebook will remain a breeding ground of conspiracy, pushed there by the echo chamber and Nazi-bar effects.

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The trouble with fact checkers was quite evident in the Trump-Harris debate.
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Yes, this just reads like "oh, thank God for that, that department was an expensive hassle to run".

I don't know if I'd call it a certain win for Meta long term, but it might well be if they play it right. Presumably they're banking on things being fairly siloed anyway, so political tirades in one bubble won't push users in another bubble off the platform. If they have good ways for people to ignore others, maybe they can have the cake and eat it, unlike Twitter.

Like Twitter, the network effect will retain people, and unlike Twitter, Facebook is a much deeper, more integrated service such that people can't just jump across to a work-alike.

A CEO who can keep his mouth shut is also a pretty big plus for them. They skated away from bring involved with a genocide without too many issues, so same ethical revulsion people have against Musk seems to be much less focused.

Community Notes is the best thing about Musk's Dumpster fire.

The problem with CN right now, though, is that Musk appears to block it on most of his posts, and/or right-wing moderators downvote the notes so they don't appear or disappear.

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> content moderation is complicated, error-prone, and expensive

I think the fact-checking part is pretty straightforward. What's outrageous is that the content moderators judge content subjectively, labeling perfect discussions as misinformation, hate speech, and etc. That's where the censorship starts.

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Leaving Facebook, Instagram and Twitter a few years ago (and never joining TikTok) has been the number one top decision for my mental health. I wish everyone and society as a whole to make the same decision.
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As far as I can tell they gave up moderation a few years ago, at least every time I report someone spamming about "Elon Musk giving away a million dollars if you click this shady link" or the like I invariably get told it meets their "community standards" and won't be removed. I guess technically I haven't seen a female nipple there though so, job well done?
They also allow the scammiest ads for products that are 100% obvious frauds - pure distilled snake oil. It really brings meta’s image to the dirt. They’re like an online super market tabloid these days.
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I am sure Mark wanted to do this for quite some time. Community Notes have been a way to let the audience do the fact checking for them, in exchange for a "sense of pride and accomplishment" instead of paying millions or billions to vendors and alienate half of its audience. The timing is obviously to placate Trump.

The effectiveness of Community Notes is up to debate. Though I personally have seen some really brutally honest or hillarious fact checks (check out Community Notes Violations on Twitter) but I still feel it can be brigaded by trolls to say the inverse is the truth. I have an anecdotal example from recent memory which on a post of someone commenting on the new Superman trailer, with a shot of Corenswet as Clark Kent gushing about how much he looked like Superman. I saw a humorous community note on that post that claimed the person in the image is not Superman but Clark Kent and they are separate people.

To me this raises the question, couldn't Community Notes potentially be overwhelmed by trolls to claim a falsehood as the truth for more nefarious reasons (this may have happened already, though I have not seen it yet).

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I was recently browsing FB for the first time in months, and didn't see a peep from fact checkers, despite all the garbage-tier content FB is forcing into my feed including things like "see how this inventors new car makes fossil fuels and batteries obsolete". I spent most of my time on the site clicking "hide all from X", where X is some suggested page I never expressed interest in. The "shorts" on the site are always clickbaity boob-featuring things that I have no interest in either. The site is disgusting and distracting from any practical use, i.e. keeping in touch with friends, which is what I used to use it for.
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