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That is an issue. You posses religious conditioning that makes you believe this. If you disagree with abortion that is fine, but your opinion/stance should not be projected on everyone else in the country. The problem with this situation is religious folks are so brainwashed they can't even comprehend a situation where "live and let live" is possible, because you all think that your way is right and everyone else is wrong.
> That is an issue. You posses religious conditioning that makes you believe this.

Abortion is not a religious issue, it is an ethical issue. Some religious people are fine with abortion, some atheists oppose it.

> If you disagree with abortion that is fine, but your opinion/stance should not be projected on everyone else in the country. The problem with this situation is religious folks are so brainwashed they can't even comprehend a situation where "live and let live" is possible, because you all think that your way is right and everyone else is wrong.

This argument is a completely unworkable argument and I have no idea why people think it will hold water. Abortion opponents believe that abortion is literal murder. You can't simply go "it's fine if you don't want to murder, but you shouldn't stop other people from murdering". I understand you disagree with the idea that abortion is murder, but you need to take that idea on directly rather than trying to paper it over and say "you need to live and let live".

> Abortion is not a religious issue, it is an ethical issue.

Every person I have interacted with in nearly half a century who has expressed support for the criminalization of all or most abortions believes in the existence of souls and believes that human fetuses have souls and that it's the presence of a soul that is the basis for personhood and a right to life. Please direct me to a real person who supports the criminalization of all or most abortions and who does not believe in souls because I want them to explain to me why an unintelligent human fetus that lacks a fully formed central nervous system and any activity in its cerebral cortex has personhood and a right to life while a pig does not.

By the way, it's funny how people who say that opposition to abortion has nothing to do with religion are always religious:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38091407

Another way to phrase it would be as self defense rather than murder. The baby is an unwanted intruder. And the only way to defend the mother is through the death of another person. And like self defense there are different interpretations of what rights each party has. And it is rare for anyone to be absolute in their support of the rights of one or the other party.
I disagree that most people who are anti-abortion believe it is literal murder. More like "murder lite". Just ask them what the punishment for abortion should be for the doctor and woman, and then what the punishment should be for murdering a 1 year old. you'll get drastically different answers from I think 97% of people.
> Abortion is not a religious issue, it is an ethical issue.

Says you. I see nothing ethically wrong with abortion.

Virtually every species of animal is known to kill their own young from time to time. Why should humans be held to a different standard? The earth is already overpopulated as-is.

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> You posses religious conditioning that makes you believe this. > but your opinion/stance should not be projected on everyone else in the country.

Wow. Talk about projection. Roe, a case where the woman involved later admitted to lying about being raped, that case, the repeal of that case moves the opinion/stance back to the states, where it should be.

> they can't even comprehend a situation where "live and let live" is possible

Funny someone in the "I NEED TO KILL MY BABY" crowd would write something like this. You people really have zero self awareness.

I do not value human life over any other life. Squirrels, frogs, birds, babies, they are all the same.
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