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But they can't use contraception to stop their wife dying from a miscarraige of a wanted child in a state where the doctors fear being jailed for taking the necessary medical steps for saving the mother's life, if that looks too much like an abortion.
zpeti | parent | next
Remind me again - who in the history of the world has ever not been ok with abortion to save the mother?
nindalf | root | parent | next
I remember a notable Irish case where a mother died because the doctors refused to perform an abortion. Led to a constitutional change.

Woman dies after abortion request 'refused' at Galway hospital (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741.amp).

There have been cases like this in America but I’m not going to look it up. Fortunately the other commenter did. Hope this changed your opinion :)

Retric | root | parent | next
The line isn’t clear cut as risk isn’t a guarantee.

Multiple US woman have already died when doctors where unwilling to intervene despite significant issues being present. There’s a lot of politics involved but as an example Josseli Barnica died in 2021 before row vs wade was overturned with doctors refusing to act over legal concerns despite clear and significant issues.

jampekka | root | parent | next
You're vastly underestimating how cruel people can get, especially when they are on religion.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/21/us/abortion-b...

ZeroGravitas | root | parent | next
What do you think those "9-month abortions” people talk about are for?
gabrielhidasy | root | parent
A few very religious people, but I don't think any of those had traction to get that into law in the US recently.
tekknik | parent
This has already been covered. Any Dr too scared to read and interpret a law needs to give up their license because they’re pushing a political agenda.

If you don’t want to get pregnant it’s quite easy even if you don’t use contraceptives. Mistaken pregnancies need to go back to health class.

awkward | root | parent | next
If you've dealt with human behavior at scale at all you know that more friction produces less activity. Of course doctors are going to deny treatment if it's treatment that comes with special legal scrutiny. Of course a new layer of legal review and approval is going to suppress the service that gets locked behind it.
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ff317 | root | parent | next
The laws in question are ambiguously worded and untested-yet in courts. They promise severe financial penalties and prison terms for offenders. I don't blame a doctor for being scared.
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whatever1 | root | parent | next
The hospitals turn women in trouble away instructing them to come back in a comma or something. Not sure what can be done.
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