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Because it’s illogical. Far right implies there is an edge to a majority “right”. Calling the entire majority “far right” is just lazy adhominem attacks. Calling the entire the democrat party far left is equally stupid.
slightwinder | parent | next
> Because it’s illogical. Far right implies there is an edge to a majority “right”.

"far right" and "far left" are terms for contextualizing a political stance, based on the world view and actions. It's doesn't matter where the majority of people stands, they can be all far right or far left or in the center, it wouldn't change the definitions.

56w4574 | root | parent | next
In America you generally only see "Far X" used as a slur to basically imply extremism. I'm sure a lot of people will have strong feelings about whether that's accurate or not but my point is mainly that I think it's weird when people in places like Europe go by the academic definition with regard to American politics.
NotYourLawyer | root | parent
No, they’re relative terms. “Far right” doesn’t mean anything in a vacuum.
simiones | root | parent
The nazi government of Germany was "far right" even when a majority of the population supported it. The political left-right spectrum is roughly defined with socialism, communism on the far left, social democracy on the left, classical liberalism on the center-right, conservatism on the right, and ultra-nationalism, fascism on the far right.
cryptonym | parent | next
Far-right is well defined globally. Few core values: nationalism, authoritarianism, anti-socialism, economic libertarianism, racial and gender hierarchies, anti-establishment sentiments.

If you think a party is ticking many boxes, you may label it as "far-right".

ImJamal | root | parent
Maybe I am missing something but Trump doesn't support much of that?

> nationalism, authoritarianism

Sure, you could say he supports this.

> anti-socialism

Not a fair right position. This I'd what anybody who is right of the center left position thinks.

> economic libertarianism

Trump doesn't support this. He wants all sorts of tariffs and the like.

> racial and gender hierarchies

I haven't seen any proof he supports such a thing.

> anti-establishment sentiments.

This is not a far right position. This is a populist position.

dns_snek | parent | next
Calling the democratic party "far left" is stupid for a different reason, viewed from a global perspective, they're probably best positioned as centre-right.
potato3732842 | root | parent | next
Depends what you care about. Broadly speaking the entire developed world is further left than the US on workplace/business/union policy issues.

The US left (federally, not talking Alabama dems here) is generally more left on immigration, abortion and LGBTQ+ and affirmative action type policies than Europe, broadly speaking. Drug policy is a wash IMO. There's a lot more variation in Europe because the EU doesn't arbitrate social issues the way the US federal government does.

j-krieger | root | parent | next
> Broadly speaking the entire developed world is further left than the US on workplace/business/union policy issues

This is what's crippling them. We initially built the social security net to counter this issue. Then we increased employee rights to maximum levels. I think one of either would be beneficial, but not both.

ilikecakeandpie | root | parent
> not talking Alabama dems here

As an Alabama Dem, this is something that is just so disappointing to see when we're assumed to be not "generally more left"

There are so many here supporting and doing good, hard work with things like the Yellowhammer Fund, ¡HICA!, and Magic City Acceptance Center and Academy but we have to fight for any acknowledgement. We had more people vote for Kamala than several states but they amount to nothing in the public eye. It's so deflating and discouraging

potato3732842 | root | parent
I think you have to acknowledge that the democratic politicians that rise to prominence in your state are not exactly the left of the left when it comes to policy in the same way that Christ Christie and Charlier Baker aren't hardline republicans. It's just a reflection of the electorate, not a personal slight.
ilikecakeandpie | root | parent
Doug Jones was our last democratic politician on the national stage and he voted quite liberally. We just don't have many anymore, due to gerrymandering and our electorate. I think Terri Sewell is our only non-Republican

It is not the best

https://ballotpedia.org/Doug_Jones_(Alabama)

j-krieger | root | parent | next
This is not true. Their identity politics stances are widely unpopular across the globe, and you won't find another country where they are represented in political discourse.
weberer | root | parent
Can you give some examples of what a far left country or government would be?
spiderfarmer | parent | next
Yeah, you’re mixing up a couple facts with opinions here.
loup-vaillant | parent
By that reasoning Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy weren't far right, because a very significant portion of their population actually voted for that. Or France now, our "Rassemblement National" used to be far right, but now enough people (about a third) vote for them that they no longer are.

Sorry if that feels like a strawman, but I find the idea of using popularity to determining what counts as "far" stupid and dangerous.