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Dylan16807 | on: The Internet Archive has lost its appeal in Hachette vs. Internet Archive
> There's no "library exception".

The copying only exists on a technical level because digital stuff is weird. Only one copy is usable at a time.

So either IA is guilty of copying because of a technicality, or normal libraries are only allowed because of a technicality/exception. (Because normal libraries fail the transformation test, they fail the amount copied test, they fail the expressive nature test, and they fail the market impact test.)

I want to believe the former is correct. Either way I believe there should be a way for IA to access that same "this isn't considered copying" territory somehow.

tptacek | parent
Libraries are not allowed to do what IA did!
Dylan16807 | root | parent
I'm talking about what libraries are allowed to do, the non-digital version of lending. It fails every fair use test, but they're allowed to do it.

The only difference is whether technically copying happens, because controlled digital lending has the same results as a system that involves no copying. It doesn't have the common definition of copying where two people can access two copies at the same time.

If IA came first, and libraries came second, would we refer to libraries as having a technicality/exception that lets them be legal?

Though I suspect that if libraries were invented right now they'd be declared illegal.

tptacek | root | parent
No fair use test applies to the lending of physical books, which do not create copies and are not governed by the Copyright Act.
Dylan16807 | root | parent
They don't have to pass the test, but they still fail it.

Please look at what I'm actually saying instead of snapping off replies that don't address my point. (And yes I edited in another couple sentences but the part about libraries not copying was in the original version of both those posts.)

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