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quentindanjou | on: Apple reveals new AI architecture built around Google Gemini models
I don't want my apps that have AI implemented to be able to read my messages because Europe mandates feature parity. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. For Apple it means building all the APIs that probably already exist but this time to be requested by apps, which would be a huge attack surface, even Apple's own apps suffers from security breaches (like Message before the switch to closed container execution). AI breaks the separation of concerns, which can lead to disastrous consequences.

EU has great intentions, and of course, feature parity should be offered so that competition can exist, but I don't find it crazy that it is more complicated on a product like that. As tech people things are very obvious to us but we need to remember that we are talking about a product used by everyone.

layer8 | parent | next
It’s not clear how it is significantly different from allowing apps access to your contacts, calendar, photos, and so on. And Apple doesn’t say that they merely need more time to properly implement it, the claim that they are unable to implement it without compromising privacy and security. And the latter I don’t really see, with the proper set of permissions presented in the way users are already used to.

As an Apple user I feel more patronized than empowered here.

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bloppe | parent | next
The law does not require Apple to grant all permissions to all apps for all users. It just requires Apple to ask users if the user wants to grant elevated permissions to specific apps that they download. The user can always say "no", which should obviously be the default.

The situation is that Apple won't even allow users to grant elevated permissions to any 3rd party app, even if the user wants to.

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aucisson_masque | parent | next
> don't want my apps that have AI implemented to be able to read my messages because Europe mandates feature parit

App permissions.

Beside you don't have to install any third party app, I only have Google assistant installed on my Android.

I heard the same kind of talk when the eu forced apple to switch to USB C...

There is a real, strong, monopolistic issue with some American companies that their government refuse to deal with because it's so corrupt. It would be fine if it didn't impact us in Europe, but it does.

darkwater | parent
> I don't want my apps that have AI implemented to be able to read my messages because Europe mandates feature parity.

The AI provider would still be YOUR choice. You could stick with Apple's if you don't trust the other ones.